Friday, February 11. 2005TiVo ToGo AnnoyancesComments
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Why don't you use MythTV? I thought about getting Tivo or some other PVR a while ago, but don't like the monthly fees, closed box, limitations (DRM possibly), and future uncertainty.
I had a look at MythTV about a year ago and really didn't have the time it would have required. Nor did I have a nice quiet little PC to use for it. These $70 TiVo boxes are very nice hook up and forget boxes that are extremely easy to use and for the most part do everything better than MythTV. It's also not like they will suddenly stop working if TiVo goes under. If you look around you will find significant TiVo communities in countries where TiVo doesn't offer service.
But yes, TiVo isn't exactly trailblazing anymore and whether it is MythTV or something else that replaces it, perhaps a revitalized TiVo (?), I can see switching at some point.
> If you look around you will find significant TiVo communities in countries where TiVo doesn't offer service.
People can use Tivo without a subscription? I don't know if Tivo does everything better than MythTV - maybe it has a simpler/easier interface (but just by a bit). MythTV can do so much more - music, weather, web, images, etc. There are quite a few case options - like Coolermaster (and cheaper). I think there are even PSU's and fans that are specifically made to be quiet and used in PVR's. I'm still thinking about building a MythTV box, but fact is there's not a whole heck of a lot on TV I'm interested in recording. Coolermaster: http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2320
Yup, for the non-core functionality of TiVo, I agree, the alternatives have it beat by quite a bit. With a 3-year old running around and extremely busy schedules, we watch perhaps 3 hours of tv per week on average. That's not a while lot, so when we do sit down to watch something I don't want to have to "fix" the TV yet again and the few shows we do like need to be there and ready to go. I was very interested in the ToGo service because I travel so much and I am often stuck on planes, in airports or in hotels. I get a lot of reading done on the road, but it would be nice to also have the option to bring some stuff from the TiVo with me.
As far as using the TiVo without the service. Yes, it can be done. I have always subscribed and will continue to do so because it is much easier, but when you don't have the option in places where tivo doesn't provide guide data for and won't even sell you a subscription if you ask them nicely you do what you have to do. Have a look at http://minnie.tuhs.org/TiVo/Paper/auug_tivo_paper.html for a good writeup on the history of hacking the TiVo. Closer to home there is http://www.tivocanada.com/
You c ould also use something like tmpgenc to convert from the .tivo files to avis, mpgs, or whatever. I do that to prepare shows to burn to DVDs. You have to select the filetype . at the bottom of the list. I recommend using the wizard to prepare the file format for DVDs. I then use Nero to make a playable DVD from the mpeg files, which shouldn't require another encoding pass. I cut off the handful of black pixels and that random noise at the top at the same time. I also edit out the commercials, which is a little unfriendly, but whatever.
I have also gone directly from .tivo to divx avi so that I can throw a whole bunch of shows onto one data DVD. You can tell tmpgenc to do a batch of files. Oh yeah, I get about real-time tranfer rates over USB and 10/100, so you're not doing much worse.
Right, I am sure this stuff can be hand-manipulated into shape. But all this manual intervention is very un-tivo like. If I wanted to fiddle I would buy a nice little Shuttle box and run MythTV or something similar. TiVo's reason for existing is to package this stuff for people who don't have time to fiddle.
I read your description of your struggles to create a DVD from a TiVo downloaded file. I can appreciate your frustration. I've been with TiVo since the beginning. I love TiVo. But you gotta stop TiVo at the shoreline. I, too, wanted to create DVD's from TiVo downloads. After a lot of hesitation and research, here's what I did.......and how it turned out. I decided that I wanted to use the DVR approach........that's a unit that hooks up to your TiVo/TV system, and enables recording of TiVo downloads. I happened to buy a Panasonic E80H, based on internet chatter. It's got an 80g hard-drive, and a DVD burner. Here's how it works: you "save to VCR" (you'd think that TiVo would get a little more up-to-date) the TiVo download, recording it onto the Panasonic hard-drive. (You could copy it directly to the DVD burner, but then you'd lose the ability to edit out the commercials, etc.) After editing the commercials, and cleaning up the beginning/ending of the file, you then "dub" the result to the DVD drive. (I found out that "dub" is just another word for "transfer".) After dubbing is finished, you've got a DVD that you can play, copy, whatever. All this sounds simple enough, but I can say that it was one of the most difficult challenges that I've ever experienced. In the end, it was worth it. So go with a DVR. If you decide to do this and get stuck, contact me & maybe I can help you out.
pjblevin
Sage TV on a Windows Box with a Hauppage PVR 350. Life is good.
What ? I want to burn all my recording to a DVD ? Ok. I install a DVD burned into it, and now I'm burning onto DVD right on the appliance ... no 15 hour transfer. I want to take shows with me on my laptop ? It's my own .avi, so I can do what I want with it. Want to record on one and playback on another ? Want to network them ? Wi-fi them ? Want to host pictures, music, play into a 5.1 system ? No prob, and all for a small initial investment with no recurring fee. Myth ain't easy, TIVO ain't good. Go with Sage and you'll love it, guaranteed. I love mine. Best thing I've ever done with a 400 Mhz machine ;)
i got the same frustration as u do with sonic's mydvd.....in regards to this " A quick register hack fixed that, but you can't expect Joe User to hack his registry for something this simple." can u tell me how to change the regisrty (where to go) i know how to change things but what string...
thanks
Why even bring up MythTV in a Tivo ToGo blog? MythTV does not run on Windows. And as far as Sage TV with a TV tuner, try playing those recorded shows back on your TV set with some easy navigation via a remote control (without added expense of dedicating a wired pc/laptop to the input lines of your tv.
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Poor TiVo. We love the lil guy, but he just continues to receive bad press for almost everything he does. I've been meaning to check out the HME SDK for TiVo and it appears that Rasmus Lerdorf, the creator of the PHP scripting language, already has: Another annoying thing is that the recorded shows have a thin strip of white on black noise at the top. Looks to be too organized to be noise actually. Closed captioning data or something? Guess I may need to edit the stream to cut that out and also to snip out the commercials so I can fit more on a dvd. I'll update this if I ever get my shows onto a dvd that works. At this point I am having a hard time disagreeing with the TiVo Deathwatch. I'll probably be looking for an alternative soon.Uh oh, TiVo. I've seen a few positive things too, so there is some balance out there. We still don't have a Series 2 TiVo, so I guess we're living in the past, but we've got lots of good life out of the Series 1 and I feel that it was a very good purchase at the time. I don't think it's time to throw dirt on TiVO just yet, but they are clearly on life support. Maybe Mark Cuban is right about TiVo. He said in a recent interview that they should get out of the hardware business and license their software. Good advice.
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