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Was wondering if there is a forum to discuss problems getting kismet to work....new to linux and got files on the router but cant get kismet to run and scan's to work.
Yeah, I know, but the noise level increases dramatically as you go higher. I find the sweet spot is actually down around 60-65 or so.
Wh0a!
Hey rasmus, i was wondering what you thought of the linksys wsb24, and why you chose to get a directional hyperlink antenna over getting an amplifier that would rock your baby wrt54g's OUT with an extra 14dbm average?
He's already set the antenna power to 84mW in the 3rd party router firmware. the firmware allows the signal power to be set from like 0-200mW, but 84mW is accepted as the optimum. an extra amplifier just makes more noise.
how do you use the scp/wget commands to copy kismet from your pc to the router? Im a newbie at Telnet.
Can anyone give me a hand, having trouble getting kismet up and running I get the following error when I try and run kismet_drone:
Suid priv-dropping disabled. This may not be secure. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled. Enabling channel hopping. Disabling channel splitting. Source 0 (wrt54g): Enabling monitor mode for wrt54g source interface eth2 channel 6... Source 0 (wrt54g): Opening wrt54g source interface eth2... FATAL: ioctl: No such device
Hey Daedaleus, Icecold, Mike Dolan, and Vincent. I have a brilliant suggestion.
RTFM!!! It starts by learning unix ...
I've got a WRT54G and want to add a signal booster to it. I have the dual gain antenna and it's not quite enough to reach where I need it to. The booster for the 802.11b is avail but not to be used due to not certified yet?
Anyone know much about it-can I use it? Todd
Great page...very helpful.
As I'm not a Linux person I had problems with the SCP part......this pagelink sorted it out for me and would be very useful if incorporated into this page. http://scalnet.zapto.org/wakka.php?wiki=SamaDhi2
I'm having problems with the scp bit.
Here's what I get when I try to scp the kismet bits over: # scp 192.168.16.37:/Volumes/Opt/kismet/bin/kismet_monitor /tmp/kismet/bin/kismet_monitor /usr/bin/ssh: illegal option -- x usage: scp [-pqrvBC1246] [-F config] [-S program] [-P port] [-c cipher] [-i identity] [-l limit] [-o option] [[user@]host1:]file1 [...] [[user@]host2:]file2 # Huh??? I'm not typing -x ! How do I get around this?
if you were doing a copy, would you say copy destination source? or copy source destination? try scp
The FTPPUT command works just fine to copy file to my WRT54GS. I'm using the DD-WRT fireware. There is all a FTPGET command.
For those of you having troubles with scp try typing this:
man scp q to quit when you have the knowledge. scp /path/to/source/file username@destination_host:/path/to/destination/file You will be promped for the password, copy one file at a time. Lefty
I'm getting the "illegal option" with scp on Samadhi2 v2.00.8.6sv as well. Not quite sure what, but there aren't any manpages on the router anyway.
Thanks for the info! Great stuff ... it works really well.
Manpages can generally be found online, google.com provides, http://security.web.cern.ch/security/ssh/man/scp.1.html
Has anyone run into the below issue when trying the kismet on Linksys WRT54G S/N CDF5 v2 series. "wl scan" produces error: "eth1: Invalid argument" Is there any fix for this issue?
Any help would be appreciated.
This happened to me also when I was running in AP mode. I switched to "Client" and the error went away.
Wireless-> Basic Settings->Wireless Mode. I hope this helps.
I had so many issues with the various instructions out there that I almost threw the damn router out the window!
First off: My particular WRT54g model with v2.02.2 firmware doesn't have the "client" setting. Furthermore, loading BuzzBox distro on it just to get a command-line prompt didn't help any...in fact, I couldn't set it into client mode via command-line at all. I was actually able to persuade it to go into Ad-Hoc mode to at least let me perform command-line scans, but kismet wouldn't run. I eventually switched to the EWRT firmware (http://www.portless.net/ewrt/) and was able to get the router to turn off AP mode, scan and do all the normal stuff as well as start the drone without the "eth1" error (which I am assuming is a result of periodic scan requests coming from kismet to the router interface, which is stuck in AP mode). The second issue folks may want to know about is that this particular precompiled build of the kismet_drone the author posted here is built from the development tree. If you get the stable version of the server (v3.0.1) you won't be able to talk to it.
Well, right near the top I did say to install the Sveasoft firmware complete with a link to it. And if you read any of my other WRT entries you would have realized that none of this stuff works with the default firmware.
Hmm, Maybe I should mention that I tried all above firmwares on a v2 router, with no help - wl disassoc always returned eth1: Invalid argument.
That's until I tried doilg wl ap 0 - to get it out of ap mode. Then wl disassoc still returned an error BUT wl scan didn't. Let me know if it helped you.
Thanks Doug! you saved me a bunch of hastle. Now i can use this thing to net stumble. The next step is to get it on battery power.
Has anyone made any progress on getting channel hopping working on these puppies yet? Kismet's hardly useful without it. :(
Email me jon@ my domain, or catch me on AIM as maskofconcern if you have any useful info. Thanks!
kismet_drone install success on openwrt
by ssh from laptop under debian (kismet) to windows2000. howto http://scalnet.zapto.org/wakka.php?wiki=KisMet wrt54g v1.1 firmware openwrt + laptop debian 2.2 woody(kismet-2004-04-R1)
To those thinking about using boosters ... please don't :) They cause trouble for everyone else.
There's nothing a booster can do that a well placed and designed antenna can't. Using less power means less interference on the already crowded 2.4 band.
I'm clueless about wireless; my neighbor has an Mac airport running and says I can use the signal if I want; all I ned is a ireless router and plug in my desktop? If the signal is too weak (thick walls) an omnidirectional antenna can be plugged into the router?
Don't use an omni, use a directional antenna, unless you're going to be moving around a lot. Directional antennas are cheaper, and will give you the gain just where you want it.
The only way I could figure out how to get the kismet files onto my router is with winscp. How do you get kismet to run after that?
How did you get it so that it would channel hop? I've convered with Dragorn a couple of times, and he says that channel hopping for the wrt54g's doesn't exist.
I'm trying to figure this out so I can come up with a way to get my wap54g to channel hop. It will run the official mips kismet binaries, but they don't channel hop. When I run your binary, it throws a segmentation fault.
Have the same problem, too. Think we have to bring the box to channelhop by itself so that kismet gets already hoped results from the channel it is bound to.
But it sounds easier as it is because I found no 'wl' command (ver. 2) that is usefull for channelhopping while kismet runs. Okay you can get some results with 'wl scan' and 'wl scanresults' but thats completly independent of kismet. Also I had problems with the drone running on the box - better results with the kismet server, but not satisfing, too... Any ideas (except of troycicles) are very welcome ... UOF
wl scan will get the thing to change channels, but only for the second or so that the box is scanning. It won't continuously scan.
Right now I've got a program that telnets into it and runs wl channel commands on it every 100ms. Works great, but kismet doesn't know what channel it's on. Not a total loss though. I'm convinced though there has to be a way for kismet to be able to get it to hop on it's own. If you scroll up, you see in the log posted that says enabling channel hopping. I'm curious how that was done.
Hm, read it already. Dragorn posted that this is a 'normal' kismet-message but doesn`t change the behavior of the box refering to channelhopping.
Thougt of a script, too. But there has to be a way to exec it without the need of any kind of remote connection to the box... Damn think I have to reanimate my rusty C-skills grmpf ...
If it wasn't channel hopping you'd get a message immediately afterward saying "Disabling channel hopping... no sources are able to channel hop" or something like that.
wrote a little script ...
here is the code: #!/bin/ash /usr/sbin/wl disassoc /usr/sbin/wl ap 0 /usr/sbin/wl passive 1 while true do for i in 7 14 2 13 3 9 12 4 11 5 10 6 1 8 do /usr/sbin/wl channel $i /usr/sbin/wl channel sleep 1 done done to activate per remote, or by cron, or init ... works real fine under openwrt... regards uof p.s. this forum isnt realy good for possting code ...
forgot to say:
on sveasoft you have to deactivate channel 14 - dunno why. AND of course, if you are located in the states, you have to remove the channels 12, 13 and 14 ... regs uof
I can't get kismet's channel hopping to work either, but I believe I had it working at one point in the past. Rather than kill myself trying to solve the problem now (later), I use this:
while true do wl scan 2>/dev/null sleep 1 done Any thoughts?
I never was able to get channel hopping working natively with the firmware that you gave me awhile back. I resorted to a program I wrote that telnet's in and runs commands for changing the channel.
I have a few questions: Is it possible to be able to use your router as a webserver? Is the GS compatible with the software or just the G? And can I reset back to the default firmware?
Of course you can. Its already running. I´d suggest to stick openwrt onto your wrt: http://openwrt.ksilebo.net/ with that you have a well documented little linux. the problem is that you have only limited space on the box. but you can install the nfs-module and mount a partition from a "real" computer onto it, where your html files are located. have a look at the packages of openwrt to find out what the httpd is able to.
The GS has more memory, and a little different HW so I suppose that you will get in trouble if you put a GS firmw. an a G. But I´ve got no GS and so I`ve not tested it ... If you upload the original firmware and reset the box by pressing the reset button a while, it should be in "old" condition. uof
I would like help tweeking my linksys router. Im looking for more range and step by step install for Kismet. I am a newbie. So any help would be great. Just email it to this addr vashthestampede@sio.midco.net
Thanks again
I am in need of the same thing
Can you send me those step by step instructions for tweaking the signal Email To saed1@earthlink.net
Step One: Open your browser to http://www.google.com
Step Two: Search for wrt54g or wap54g depending on what box you're working on. Step Three: Read one of the many pages of information that result. Especially check the search results mentioning seattle wireless.
How do you like the flat-patch antenna from Hyperlink? What type of increase in signal did you get if any?
TIA, -bob
I didn't find them to help much actually. I was hoping for a bit more penetrating power by using directional on both ends, but it didn't improve the signal strength. Perhaps straight-line non-obstructed it would work better, but I haven't tested that.
Hey, everyone...
I'm trying to get Kismet to work on my WRT54G V2 with the latest free (Satori 4.0G) firmware from Sveasoft and Kismet server 3.0.1 on a Debian box. I've tried the kismet binary linked-to in the orig. post above as well as the mips binary available from kismetwireless.net. Drone always appears to start-up fine on the wrt54g, but when I start-up the kismet server on my Debian box, I get errors on both the drone and server side. Kismet server reports:"FATAL: capture child 15659 packet buffer empty and flagged as diseased, exiting", while Kismet_Drone reports:"Accepted streamer connection from 192.168.2.10 WARNING: Killing client fd 6 read error 0: Success". Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Marc.
I'm running wolf's alchemy pre 5.3 w19a...
In this version.. when you run "wl scan".. it automatically re-associates with the last SSID joined so that you can 'survey' and not kill your client mode.. Does anyone have Kismet working with wolf's alchemy?
Hey... I got a problem...
I have the V 1.1 and already installed kismet on it. Did the Client Mode too. After that I dont have a error message BUT: I dont have any scanresults and Im sure Im surrounded by some networks - I was checking It with kismet on my notebook... So whats the problem ? Next thing - I cant start kismet_drone "No such file or directory" is the answer... Thanx for helping...
I have a version 2 using the latest sveasoft firmware. everything is seems to have installed correctly but when I try to run the kismet drone, it says that permission is denied.
what can I do to get it to run?
I have kismet_drone running on my WRT54G V2 and detecting various AP's, but kismet_drone is not reporting signal power levels or noise level back to remote kismet server. Is there a command line in the kismet_drone.conf file that has to be written to detect signal levels? Is the fact that kismet_drone is not channel hopping the cause of not reading signal power levels for all detected AP's.
ok I got everything installed...finally. But now I'm at a rough spot. I'm trying to get the drone service on the laptop to work. I know my kismet works on the laptop because I use it normally with the orinoco line. But the line I'm using is "source=kismet_drone,192.168.1.3:3501,drone" when I fire up kismet on the laptop I get "No enable sources specfified, all sources will be enabled. FATAL: Source 0 (drone): Unknown card type 'kismet_drone' Starting UI... FATAL: Could not connect to localhost:2501. Client exited, termination... DOne. Run kismet_unmonitor or eject and re-insert your card (or restart your pcmcia services) to return your card to normal operation. Im crying I'm sooo close! What do I have wrong? the kismet drone itself seems to fire up perfectly on the linksys itself. It's sitting on Allowing ocnnections from 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 now. Also the way I got my files to my linksys were to post them on the web http://www.freewebs.com/pele_smk/kismet.tar.gz you can wget that straight from the links and tar -xvzf and then you'll have to sort out the directories. But that one file has all 3 of the files in it. Glad to help someone if they can't get the scp to work, maybe someone can push me a little further. Thanks
wl1 scan results is giving me stuff, but on the actual kismet server I'm getting a mismatch of versions. says FATAL: capture child 6477 source drone: version mismatch: Drone sending version 8, expected 7 what is going on?
You probably need to download a newer version of the Kismet server and GUI.
after long ado, it's time to comeback to this project. After reading he replies I find that I am using a v3.0 branch and that it's not compatible with this precompiled mips....So I'm off looking for an old version of Kismet. Where are you guys finding old versions at? On the kismet site I find them, but they are in some 50 odd pieces, which doesn't make sense to me. I know all of you didn't save all those pieces did you? Any help would be great.
anyone got the
disassoc =>eth1: Invalid argument problem solved? do i have to set the router to ap, client or whatever mode?
Yup, replace eth1 with wifi interface prism0 like this: source=wrt54g,prism0,wrt54g or luse ifconfig to see your wifi device name
i have a problem with my WRT54G. it brings the following message if i try to start kismet_drone
/tmp/kismet/bin # ./kismet_drone Suid priv-dropping disabled. This may not be secure. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled. Enabling channel hopping. Disabling channel splitting. Source 0 (wrt54g): Enabling monitor mode for wrt54g source interface eth1 channe l 6... Source 0 (wrt54g): Opening wrt54g source interface eth1... FATAL: pcap reported netlink type 1 (EN10MB) for eth1. This probably means you' re not in RFMON mode or your drivers are reporting a bad value. Make sure you h ave the correct drivers and that entering monitor mode succeeded. /tmp/kismet/bin #
Hi Sebastian, it happens exactly the same to me.
I'm using the Alchemy-pre5.4a firmware from sveasoft. Any suggestions, ideas?? Thanks.
i found out that on alchemy the device isnt eth1 or eth2, but prism0. just edit the kismet_drone.conf and insert source=wrt54g,prism0,wrt54g
then all will work fine,
I've written a program to do exactly that, as well as channel hop the linksys box. It's for win32, but you might check it out anyway. It might run in wine, although I have yet to try it.
http://www.musatcha.com/computers/software/wifimapping/
how do i fix this wrt side killing client fd 5 read error 131
linus box side failed reset ui server :tcp server ..()failed: addresse already in use
from linux box
alowing connections from 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255 faile to set up ui server: Tcpserver bind() failed address already in use from wrt54g warning: killing client fd 5 read error 131: connection reset by peer
I have everything working, I appreciate everyone's comments here, it really helped!
What I would like to do is deploy these as Kismet remote drones and connect to them across a WAN, but, whenever I enable the Linksys as a "Client" in AP mode, it disables routing and I am unable to contact the Linksys remotely. Any suggestions or ideas on how to make this work?
Also, when I get Kismet up and running, if I power cycle the Linksys, I lose my Kismet directory and I have to recreate everything again.
Am I missing something or is there a way to save this permanently to the Linksys' NVRAM?
Depending on the firmware you're using on your linksys box depends on whether you can write to the flashrom or not. OpenWRT will do it. It's also possible to use OpenWRT on a wap54g (check the site on sourceforge for specific instructions).
if you install kismet packets with openwrt it will install kismet on the etc dir and not the tmp dir
Quick problem I'm having on the WRT54G. I've set-up kismet correctly on the router (Satori Sveasoft 4 thing) and the drone runs file (although after it starts up, it gives me -
WARNING: Setting driver in STA mode to enable channel hopping as the last time before looking like it's scanning). I then try to connect from my FreeBSD machine with Kismet and on the drone's side I get - Accepted streamer connection from 192.168.0.3 WARNING: Killing client fd 5 read error 25: Inappropriate ioctl for device On the client side, I get a FATAL error about not having permission to open the dump file (don't really care about that at this point) and I also get this before it closes - WARNING: drone (192.168.0.254:3501) unable to exit monitor mode automatically. You may need to manually restart the device and reconfigure it for normal operation.Kismet exiting.
you need to be in a user account not in root. make shure you add your user name to the config file
Hey there,
You write: "I have found that the radio on it when cranked up to its full 84mw is better than any of my pcmcia cards including the 100mw Cisco-350 I normally use when I need to pick up some distant signal." Although "wl -h" shows the txpwr command's values as being between 1-84, you can actually beef it up to 251 mw. (You can get it to 255 mw if you REALLY want to - email me if you're curious.) Just issue the command: wl txpwr 251 And volia. You can confirm it by typing wl txpwr and it will tell you that, indeed, it has been set to 251. (If you type something ridiculous in there, like wl txpwr 380 - it will accept it, but if you go wl txpwr to confirm, you'll see that it hasn't.) If you thought 84 mw performance was good, wait until you see this. Kind Regards, -Mike.
I have a WAP54G that i am trying to get Kismet to work on. i have read online (google 'wap54g kismet - youll see...) that it can be done. problem is, the WAP uses a broadcom based chipset, which broadcom hasnt released drivers for. Does anyone have any suggestions on getting Kismet to work on the WAP?
Works great for me. The WAP54g is nearly identical hardware wise to the WRT54g. I was working on a tutorial on my website but just realized I never finished it. The trick is, you need a specific version of kismet. I can't get the new builds tow ork on the waps or the wrts without getting segmentation faults. Also, the freya firmware for that wap is hard to find these days. I've got a copy of both, just e-mail me at brad@musatcha.com and I'll e-mail you a copy. I'll post here when I finish the article on my site.
If you want to automate the process of copying the files then put the commands below in a file (you'll need net cat) and then do:
cat | nc 23 cd /tmp mkdir kismet cd kismet mkdir bin mkdir etc cd etc wget http:///kismet/kismet_drone.conf cd ../bin wget http:///kismet/kismet_drone wget http:///kismet/kismet_monitor chmod +x kismet_drone wl disassoc wl passive 1 ./kismet_drone
It stripped out the bracketed stuff I had in there...
It should be cat "file with commands" | nc "wrt54g ip" 23 and http://"your server ip"/....
If you cant' get Kismet running and you just want a graphical power display then copy this awk script to your wrt54g and run from there:
It re-organizes the wl scanresults output nicely and adds a little bar graph to see from across the room while you adjust your antenna. Easiest way is to telnet into your client, type 'cat - >scanner' paste in the code below, then hit enter and then a ctrl-c. run with awk -f scanner. #copy here to end BEGIN{ #by Justin Jones - do with as you wish command = "wl scan 2> /dev/null ; wl scanresults 2> /dev/null"; red = "\x1b[31m"; green = "\x1b[32m"; greenback="\x1b[42m"; yellow = "\x1b[33m"; cyan = "\x1b[36m"; blue = "\x1b[34m"; blueback = "\x1b[44m"; white = "\x1b[37m"; whiteback = "\x1b[47m"; reset = "\x1b[0m"; underscore = "\x1b[4m"; clear = "\x1b[2J"; home = "\x1b[0;0H"; erase2end = "\x1b[K"; cName = white; cSignal = green; cNoise = red; cCaps = green; cStrengthLow = blue blueback; cChannel = green; cStrengthMed = white whiteback; cStrengthHi = green greenback; cStrengthAged = red; print clear; for(;;) { while (command|getline) { if(/^SSID/) {cn = $2; name[cn] = cn; rssi[cn] = $6;noise[cn]= $9} if(/^Mode/) {rssi[cn] = $4;noise[cn]= $7; channel[cn] = $10 } if(/^BSSID/) {caps[cn] = $4" "$5" "$6" "$7" "$8" "$9" "$10 } } close(command) printf home; ln = 0; print white " Name Signal Noise Channel Type"; for (x in name) { sigstrength = ((rssi[x] - noise[x])*1.5) + ((rssi[x] +90)*1.5); if (sigstrength 4) cStrength = cStrengthMed; if(sigstrength>7) cStrength = cStrengthHi; if(age[x]=0) cStrength = cStrengthAged; fmt = "%s%-15s %s%0"sigstrength"d "reset erase2end "\n %s%-4d %s%-4d %s%-4d %s%2s %s%10s " reset erase2end "\n" erase2end "\n"; printf fmt, cName,name[x],cStrength,0,cSignal,rssi[x],cNoise,noise[x],cChannel, channel[x],cCaps,caps[x]; rssi[x] = -100; ln++; } print erase2end; } }
I have got kismet to work. Thanks for the great article.
Now I don't know how to connect to any of the detected networks (many of them without WEP). I don't know which nvram variables I need to set on my WRT so that I can connect (and use internet ;)). My setup: - Debian machine running Kismet (client & server). - connected through LAN port to a WRT54G v2.2 (running kismet_drone and openWRT).
Connecting to networks that aren't yours is illegal... at least in the USA, and should be everywhere else. It's also highly immoral. Why use someone elses network when you have your own? Get a life, get a job, and stop trying to rip people off.
i've got a wrt54gv2 that seems to be scanning fine via wl (scan, scanresults) via the prism0 interface, but for some reason it goes deaf when kismet_drone is run with the wrt54g,prism0,wrt54g config (eth1 fails, naturally).
for instance, i've got a an uncloaked ap in the same room that wl picks up immediately. kismet_drone talks fine with my kismet config on my laptop, but sits there not reporting any aps. i've run the channelhopping scripts referenced above as well but it still reports nothing. any thoughts? thx! scoove
Try changing to the channel manually, using wl channel. This will rule out any problems with the scripts.
Is possible using kismet only on wrt54g, without connecting of computer with linux? I stopped on:
Suid priv-dropping disabled. This may not be secure. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled. Enabling channel hopping. Disabling channel splitting. Source 0 (wrt54g): Enabling monitor mode for wrt54g source interface eth2 channel 6... Source 0 (wrt54g): Opening wrt54g source interface eth2... Kismet Drone 3.1.0 (Kismet) Listening on port 3501 (protocol 8). Allowing connections from 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0 what now? What should I change ? Please help me..
I cant get the 'scanner' script working. I pasted it as described. But on awk -f scanner nothing happens ... No error, no output
Wow... it's been like a year since I read any articles on the wrt routers... doing some quick browsing online lead me to seattle wireless.... looked over that for days... finally decided to buy 2 wrt's... one from Walmart of all places and one from Sam's club - both were better priced than at the computer stores... I got the GS versions - one is a version 1 (BP = bubble pack) and one is a version 3... The version 3 I am probably going to take back to walmart (it cost more anyhow) because it has a reportedly inferior processor and smaller ram... see - http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6
they have an excellent breakdown of hardware and pictures to boot for all the various versions and releases of the wrt54g and gs models... very helpful people too... By the way - back to my point - browsing around I found a link to one of my fav shows (I must have missed this one) Tech TV - the screensavers - http://www.g4tv.com/screensavers/features/354/Dark_Tip_Linux_on_Linksys.html who lightly touched on this whole crowd of ideas for linux on the wrt54g - they have links there which lead me to some great resources - INCLUDING THIS PAGE... wow! global exposure for you on there! Kudos! -Eric PS I've purchased a few very expensive access points with multi radio setups... the Strix OWS radios - Tempe, AZ WAZ metro (they covered the 40 square mile city with mesh networking and are using the STRIX units - I can see why)... I'd love to crack they propriatary firmware on their units for a smaller scale edge-client small mesh... imagine the possibilities if we could somehow port the capabilities of the strix units - which I believe are running on less hardware - but more of it and a lot more ruggidized - but imaine running a world class/carrier class (free community - my goal) WISP with QOS for VoIP and private vlans for segmented services (home users, business users, government) all on the wrt models?!! that would be a huge thing... (the ows units are severl thousand dollars each - but are the only TRUE mesh system capable of multihop and self healing bandwidth routing and remote management... - I am also using an AIRLOK (lok.com) for network services - spash portals, walled gardens, web/ftp/radius/ldap/mysql services - yeah there are ways to put nocatauth or something similar on the wrt for a simple splash authentication page - but the AIRLOK's openbsd's inherent security and a cute small form factor pc with amd64 high-speed processing power and openly available IDE (cheap) hard drives (the airlok uses maxtor - not my fav - but it works great!) and you have a really awesome network that ma bell would cry about... this is my goal... use my strix stuff for the main backhauls to the smaller local mesh groups around the city and in business districts - of course up the ante with more in higher density areas - but share the net with everyone - for free - or have it sponsored by a city or chamber of commerce... It works - I've done it now with 2 strix units and 2 wrt's to testing - I made skype voip calls, google talk calls (never tried vonage) alongside 2 or 3 300k+bps downloads from various servers on east coast and west coast as well as from locally within the wireless WAN netowrk... flawless quality.... only problem is that I have not found a way to handle the "cell phone" style handshake of clients from one AP to the next - this has been solved with the strix units - affording for true seemless wen browsing and voip calling while moving from tower to tower ot AP coverage to the next... pretty neat stuff - it'd be neater if I could find some like minded folks with the time to help get the wrt to do this.... I see so many people trying to max out the servies on the wrt - see what else they can put on it... but I see that as just fun stuff... realistically in a commercial world if you want really use this exploit for cost savings or sharing - why not look at using it as an alternative to the higher priced APs and use it's 200mhz (GS models) with 32MB of RAM for quantifiable use - i.e. use it's power only as an AP by routing say 500+ users on that particular node in a mesh cluster - leave the web hosting, databases and bandwidth management up to a higher level linux box more easily managed - this enables you to have a very fast end/edge mesh cluster - add a single AP (like the strix) running a 5ghz backhaul (802.11a) to the main network for remote connectivity - and you can take over the world... just kidding.. but it's my idea that so far I am seeing many others have had similar ideas - but never all the pieces of the puzzle put together on how to do it... I have this now - all the equipment needed, the business models (or lack therof) the antenna modeling programs, (btw - for all of you just trying to figure out theoreticaly how far your signal will go - google "radio mobile" and download that FREE software - you can map everything in your neighborhood, state or world from several free databases online with elevation data and satellite images - I got very high resolution details on my neighborhood from the satellite immagery and elevation data - and was able to predict very closely the actual radiation patterns - and where I would need to increase power or directivity with panel/sector antennas, as well as calculate the line loss from various amplifiers, cables and lengths and other connectors - factoring that all into the links changes things significantly... If any of you want to help - email me.... Eric@GoZippy.com Other projects are to port the mesh network of wrt's to a CMS solution - like I said - not hosting the splash page on the wrt, rather directing traffic to a managed network would allow you to also route to a full web server where you could run a community portal site like Joomla, or Mambo or Drupal... all excelent cms solutions - I also like php-nuke and post-nuke... I'm also working on porting a ACL to Joomla and possibly using radius or ldap for authentication on the community website over the wrt54gs mesh network... looking for help there too... |